September 02, 2005

More Prison Tycoon notes – [games]

Okay, I've figured out one or two more mechanisms for this game.

Staff building:

Land use office 1/2/3: When you create the level 1 land office, you get access to an adjacent lot for prison construction. Presumably levels 2 and 3 give you more land.

Clerical office 1/2/3: The level 1 clerical office reduces your maintenance costs by 50%. Since maintenance costs appear to be equal to the original cost of construction for each turn, this is a pretty hefty savings! Level 2 reduces costs by 66%, and level 3 by 75%. Supposedly an existing office is required to build the next level, but due to a programming bug you can delete the offices once they have been built and still keep the maintenance savings.

Small guardroom: This provides you with one guard who will patrol the prison. A guardroom is cheaper than a guard tower, but provides less surveillance (if there is such a thing).

Maintenance room: This provides you with one repair guy.

Visitor's reception: Although you can build a reception area and even a visitor's center, I don't think there is any code in place for this to do anything. I'm sure the original design had some mechanism involving visitors, but the feature got cut.

Staff rooms: Another feature that seems to have been yanked, as none of the staff ever make use of the staff rooms (maintenance always stays at 100%).


Health services building:

Hospital: Each hospital provides you with a medic who will wander around the prison. Injured prisoners will sometimes use one of the beds, but this is rare.

Therapy rooms: Each therapy room provides you with a counselor who will wander around the prison. Prisoners will sometimes visit the therapists if they aren't busy with other things.


Services building:

Library, classroom, laundry, theater: Prisoners will go there, but serves no clear purpose.

Chapel: Each chapel provides one chaplain who will wander around the prison.


So some of these areas provide units which wander around the prison yard. I think they are supposed to autonomously perform their duties as needed, but I've noticed a large disparity when there are, for example, two medics: one of them will be ranked with a number of "jobs", but the other has done zero.

An amusing thing about these units is that their animated behaviors are rather strange if not deranged. I think they are canned animations used by the developers to test certain features, and were supposed to be replaced before the game's release.

If you select one of the units, you can click the green "do your job" button.

Handyman: He fixes whatever needs maintenance.

Guard: The guard will approach a prisoner and proceed to clobber them with a nightstick, the prisoner will fall to the ground. The prisoner will then be "happy", meaning the action has satisfied some character need.

Medic: The medic will approach a prisoner who will fall to the ground (and a medical beep will sound). The medic then hammers at the prisoner's leg a few times. This somehow heals the prisoner, and they can leave "happy". (It is far less sexual than this description may sound.)

Counselor: The counselor plays some sort of juvenile trickery, waving his hand and then slapping the prisoner. The counselor then sobs, and slaps the prisoner again. This leaves the prisoner "happy".

Chaplain: It's a Catholic prison, and the chaplain blesses the prisoners, making them "happy".


Prisoner moods:

I found a list of moods in the language.xml data file. The order of moods, from good to bad, are:

VERY HAPPY
HAPPY
QUITE HAPPY
QUITE PASSIVE
PASSIVE
VERY PASSIVE
QUITE BORED
BORED
VERY BORED
QUITE ANGRY
ANGRY
VERY ANGRY

There are three special moods:

HUNGRY
INJURED
BADLY INJURED

Posted by B Rickman at September 2, 2005 12:03 AM
Comments

I just downloaded the demo thats suppose to be 60 minutes playing time but ended up being 10 minutes as when i put it on pause to use the restroom it locked up and when i rebooted it said my trial had expired... So i didnt accomplish anything but get a few buildings placed and thats it..
Game looked amusing but after reading your comments above i doubt i will pay the $20 for the full release .....

Posted by: dave at September 11, 2005 07:12 PM

What do you have to do to start to receive inmates? I setup the prison and it says that since I have no cells setup that I cant get any prisoners. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jason at September 23, 2005 07:38 AM

Jason, click the dorm building and then click the build icon. Instead of buildings there is now bunk beds and furniture to put in the building. Once the furniture is in and you have an excercise yard et.- the prisoners will slowly arrive on the bus.

Posted by: Bob at September 24, 2005 09:17 PM

Um Security Rating is supposed to increase but I can't get to Med Security. Been playing for 15 (game) years with 100% prison rating and 89 Min security Prisoners.........Fences? Towers? and How?

Posted by: Mike at October 3, 2005 07:11 PM

how do you get the prisoners to work in the shops????

Posted by: david at October 12, 2005 10:48 PM

to make them go to work you have to make sure they are happy. they also have to be full.

Posted by: shannon at October 29, 2005 12:55 PM

how do you delete this game

Posted by: DEB at November 9, 2005 03:19 AM

The most important thing if you wanna reach max level you need to build a lot of guardtowers and guard rooms.

Posted by: betty at November 18, 2005 04:09 PM

I am having trouble finding how to add beds to housing, food tables to mess hall, work to the factory, etc. Basically, I put up a building and it is empty inside, and I can't find any instruction in the manual about how to add the things it needs! Please help? Thanks.

Posted by: Tree at December 28, 2005 06:20 AM

Tree - After taking the roof off the building, just select the trowel, also known as the "build" button. This brings up the available options to add to your building. Happy New Year. :)

Posted by: TC at December 31, 2005 10:30 PM

i have a pretty sweet prison.. maxed out.. anyways when new prisioners come theyre not allocated to a cell.. i have no clue what that is.. i click on the prisoners and i do see the cell with an x through it.. how can i allocate them to their cell???

Posted by: Drew at January 2, 2006 05:07 AM

how do u allocate the prisoners to a cell.. it keeps telling me theyre not allocated to a cell

Posted by: Drew at January 2, 2006 05:08 AM

good info at http://prisontycoon.blogspot.com/

Posted by: jon at January 16, 2006 05:45 PM

> Jason, click the dorm building and then click
> the build icon. Instead of buildings there is
> now bunk beds and furniture to put in the
> building. Once the furniture is in and you
> have an excercise yard et.- the prisoners will
> slowly arrive on the bus.

Hello,

I did exactly as you describe in building the dorm, putting in bunk beds and future. I also build an excercise yard. I added a place for them to eat.

I stil get the message: I have no cells and prisoners can't arrive.

I know I can't have cells at level 1 but I have bunks. What gives?

Posted by: PrisonGuy at February 20, 2006 09:48 PM

Hi,
I want to reach the next security level (Med),
but I can't build building with this security level. How can I reach the security level 2?

Posted by: Gangster at March 29, 2006 10:54 AM

Great reading, keep up the great posts.
Peace, JiggaDigga

Posted by: JiggaDigga at April 7, 2006 09:39 AM

This game blows. No instructions no nothing. Gameplay is crap and music is soooo annoying.

Posted by: Ali G at May 3, 2006 02:31 PM

This game is unrealistic but fun. I have had this game a couple days now, and am up to max security. I've built my death row and recieved 3 inmates for it. The problem is, once they come through the sally port gate, you can't move them. So, how do I get the to the death house?

Posted by: Daren at May 10, 2006 04:48 PM

Are there executions in this game? I see that you can build an electric chair and an execution chamber, but can they actually be used?

Posted by: VS at May 26, 2006 03:26 PM

I can't seem to get any staff into my factory. What am I doing wrong? I have happy inmates but no administration in the factory so I can't move the inmates over there. Thanks.

Posted by: Adam at May 30, 2006 03:05 PM

I noticed there was what looked like a manual at the beginning of the game the first time I brought it up. How do I get to that again? And how do you level up? Merely putting up more towers or are fences and walls involed?

Posted by: Lentulas at June 28, 2006 02:16 PM

How do you rotate the damn buildings??????

Posted by: Chris at July 5, 2006 02:49 PM

How do you get inmates for death row ounce you bought it and how do you use it on them?

Posted by: kat at July 7, 2006 06:28 PM

I've got an excellent prision in all respects, but can't increase my security - is this automatic? What am I supposed to do with walls and fences? Grrr...

Posted by: Anna at August 7, 2006 05:16 PM

This game is great I am up to 250 prisoners ande have max sec. To move the camra anglehold down the ctrl key and move the mouse around till you get the view you want. right click to turn the buildings around.

Posted by: John at August 8, 2006 11:12 AM

There are cheats for Prison Tycoon. While in game play press the enter key and then type the word sleepworker you will not see what you are typing but it will activate for the cheat codes. After you have typed that then just type in the code you want

X-changes your security levels
F4- makes your prisoners happy
F8- makes them hungry
F7 makes them angry
F6-makes them board
F5-makes then passive
6 makes time go super fast

Posted by: John at August 9, 2006 08:19 AM

m is the code to get more money

Posted by: John at August 9, 2006 08:21 AM

m is the code to get more money

Posted by: John at August 9, 2006 08:22 AM

can the execution rooms really be used?

Posted by: Joel at August 9, 2006 08:31 AM

i own prison tycoon, but this game is so hard, i get a decent prison, then ma money start running out erybody start fighting, then i cant change the camera, i cant build nothing extra cuz i have no money!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rick at August 9, 2006 09:39 AM

Could someone please explain (it detail) what the requirements are to be upgraded to higher security levels? I have build towers, guard rooms, etc. and my 90 prisoner prison is still low security. HELP! Thanks!!

Posted by: John S at August 11, 2006 11:56 AM

John S, I want to know too. I have a very large low level security prison and can't seem to raise the security level either. I am raking in the cash on my factory, the fights are low to none, the rehabilitation rate is insanely awesome, I got guards up the yin yang and I just can't get the stupid security level to raise. WHAT GIVES!?!?!

Posted by: Lizard_King at August 12, 2006 09:56 AM

John and curious others, I believe I've found something. After 40 prison years, I decided to install a few more prison watch towers. When I did that the security level increased to Med. Then when I upgraded all those towers to Med. watch towers, the security level upgraded again to High, then when I upgraded all those watch towers to High, the security level upgraded again to Max! It seems watch towers are the secret we've all been looking for. Seriously, install more than you want just to get the level to upgrade. I even tested this by tearing down a tower, and when I did, the security level decreased. There you go.. have fun!

Posted by: Lizard King at August 13, 2006 09:40 AM

A few other notes as I learn. My messege above is a little misleading in that once you've gotten to Med. security, you can't just upgrade towers in order to get High security. Yes you do need to upgrade your towers, but you must also accommedate the Med. security prisoners by installing Med. security level hospital amenities. The secret is in the towers, but you must prepare for the next level as much as possible as well before you'll be granted a higher security level. Keep that in mind and you should see Max level fairly quickly. Also, don't forget to have a factory. With out one, you will not gain money fast enough if at all.

Posted by: Lizard King at August 13, 2006 12:02 PM

Ok, now I'm having trouble with unallocated prisoners. Almost every turn, I end up with prisoners that are unallocated and then when the next day comes they are escaped. I can't figure out how to alocate prisoners that are not allocated. Can anyone tell me how to allocate prisoners that wont automatically allocate?

Posted by: Lizard King at August 13, 2006 07:57 PM

Help>>>>>> I just got this game, built 3 prisons and now can't get any of them to load. Can someone tell me how PLEASE?????????

Posted by: Danielle at August 30, 2006 08:17 AM

I just bought Prisoner Tycoon 2. I can't seem to get any prisoners into my Jail! I think the problem is I can't build beds in my dormitorium. How can I do this? PLEASE HELP!

Posted by: shawn at September 1, 2006 03:44 PM

When I click on the dorms, etc I don't have the option to build. When I click on the dorm I can see the interior of the building but don't have the build tool available. Any help?

Posted by: Shawn at September 1, 2006 04:47 PM

There's a Prison Tycoon 2 now?

I'm not sure if I can stomach spending $20 on another ValuSoft game.

Posted by: Brandon at September 1, 2006 05:00 PM

Prison Tycoon 2: My Thoughts...

Meh, the jury is still out on Prison Tycoon 2. After one day of play, I've figured out all of the basics about building but keeping inmates happy? I started out on free mode and built what I thought was a pretty decent place...

Turns out it was hell. Fights breaking out all the time, doctors walking right by sick and injured inmates, inmates attacking doctors, injured doctors and janitors crawling around on all fours... I think you get the point.

Maybe I'm going about this all wrong. The thing is, I used to work at a small (200 man) medium security prison. There, the rule to follow was 50 inmates to 1 guard; the inmates did all of the cleaning, maintenance consisted of 2 staff members overseeing inmate workers. We never would have dreamed of actually hiring janitors. Yet, in this game you have to, and even then they are aren't very good, with trash lying all over the dormitories and janitors walking right by it. Even clicking "do my job" doesn't help much.

This game would have benefited greatly from allowing you to specify what you wanted someone to do, such as making that guard crawl his ass into the clinic to get patched up, instead of him aimlessly crawling about until his death; or making that hungry inmate go into the mess hall.

All of that, and my prison was rioting with a grand total of 14 inmates... nuff said.

The game feels rather unfinished, I found myself wondering things like; "hmm, is that kitchen supposed to be empty, or can I just not figure out how to make someone work in there?" Or, "Damn, that inmate is hurting bad, why isn't he going to the clinic? Wait, that doctor just walked right by him! WTF!!!"

I am going to give this game the benefit of the doubt, and try it one more time, since some of the others above me have actually managed to create a successful prison; but then again, those posts were about the first installment, which might have actually worked like it was supposed to.

!!!Oh, and to the guys who can't seem to get inmates into your prison; build the dorm building first, then click on it to get into interior mode, click the trowel icon to bring up build options and place beds. Be forewarned that while this might get the bus to bring a few inmates, you better have other amenities available or they won't last long.!!!

Posted by: Jon at September 5, 2006 07:45 AM

Ok, just got back from another mis-attempt at this game. Its official: Prison Tycoon 2 is a broken game.

This time I tried what others have said; micromanage like a mofo, picking up and moving people where they need to be, no go. Although you can pick up that crawling on all fours, mortally wounded inmate and place him in the clinic, he won't use it. Nor will the hungry inmate eat, even if you put him RIGHT AT the chow hall counter. To top it all off, you have to watch your "crack" staff more than the inmates. Your guards will beat down an inmate on just a whim. In turn, the inmates will beat down the doctors and janitors. Soon (after getting about 14 inmates) you have a medical department filled with half dead inmates and staff members, crawling around the clinic, but not getting help. Frustrated, I used cheats and built the largest medical building and staffed it with about 12 doctors, still was not enough...

Thats not even counting the hunger issue, inmates and staff alike, with a full hunger bar won't eat. This isn't like a real prison, where ALL the inmates eat at the same time, they can wander in and eat when they damn well feel like it, which isn't often. Instead, they would rather go hungry and walk outside and punch out the doctor who just healed him 5 minutes ago.

Before giving up hope on this game, I came back one more time and tried pressing every button on the keyboard in the fruitless hopes that some "schedule planner" menu would appear and leave me saying "doh!, why didn't I think of that before," but it was all for naught, what you see is what you get, which isn't much. This sucks because the concept of this game is awesome. Most games that are this bad I would have quit within 5 minutes, but I really wanted to like this game, kind of like a dog thats so ugly that its cute. Unfortunatly, this game is just too ugly to bear.

Concept and design: A
Gameplay and mechanics: F-

Final Verdict: Don't bother

Posted by: Jon at September 5, 2006 11:09 AM

FOR YOU RETARDED CATS WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY READ THIS!!??! WTF use your brains and think. The main problem that you guys are having is not spreading out the buildings. i bet you your prison is a cluster fKKK. I enjoy this game it is excellent but extremely hard. I used to be a prison guard in san quentin and you really have to think hard in this game. Space out your buildings, and remember to keep it clean if not everyone will be sick. if your retarded and have no patience and want to beat the game in 2 weeks or so this game isnt for YOU! If you take it slow and think its great. Dont bother with other reviews, this is an excellent game;
The new Tycoon 2 has a whole bunch of extras: prison dogs, celebrity inmates, riot gear, etc. Awesome game

Posted by: Nuts Rockwell at September 7, 2006 11:58 PM

My buildings were not a "cluster fKKK." They were spaced out fairly decently, with the yard, chow hall, and medical wing in fairly centralized locations. Admin and the guard buildings were spaced further away from the main buildings.

If the game were merely difficult, I would have no problem with it. My beef with the game, (if you were a prison guard, it should be your beef too) is the fact that you have little to no control. I don't know how things were at San Quentin, but where I worked, if an inmate had anger problems, he was written up and locked in the SHU for a period. In this game, the guards just wander over and beat the inmate down for no reason, and this for some reason lowers the inmates anger. If this game was realistic, the officer would be immediatly fired for unnecessary use of force.

Like I said, control is non existant; you should be able to control officers schedules: ie. 0800 patrol chow hall, 1000 patrol dormitory A, 1200 lunch break, 1400 conduct perimeter patrol, etc. The same should go for inmates, and other staff members as well, there is no reason why we shouldn't be able to click on the kitchen and set something like: 0530 B dorm breakfast chow, and with the click of a button have all of the B dorm inmates report to the dining hall to eat. This system should also go for medical purposes, and work details.

Thats boring you say? Setting schedules that everyone follows to the letter (barring isolated incidents, lockdowns, etc) are how prisons operate. Control is paramount; as you play the role of warden, you should be able to override pretty much anything within reason; ie: telling a guard with a high anger level to take a break in the staff room to cool down, or sending a troublesome inmate to a higher security level.

Sadly, none of these things are implemented, which makes the game a chore. Mr. Rockwall, if you have in fact created a highly successful prison on this game I would love to see pictures, or even a video if you use FRAPS, since I can't seem to grasp this unweildy game.

But I am sure, that as a former prison guard yourself, you surely must agree with some of the things I mentioned.

Posted by: Jon at September 8, 2006 05:11 AM

I tried everything already suggested, and I cant get bunks or cells. I can raise the security level but thats it. Everytime I build a dorm I try to left click on the building and I just get the camera, I right click and get the stats of the building, I try then to click on the trowel again and I get another building. I'm getting extremely frustrated and my son is starting to laugh at me. (Hes 8!!!)
Can someone please walk me step by step through getting prisoners please?

Posted by: Pajak42 at September 13, 2006 06:26 PM

Listen People!
It is true, this game is frustrating as all hell. In the beginning, I'd make this wonderful prison then it would quickly fill up and just as quickly I would run deeply into debt with no hope of ever turning it around. I finally realized that you just have to take it slow - build modestly, make sure prisoners are working, make sure things are well maintained, have plenty of social workers (more important than security, I've found), and soon enough you'll have income and be able to expand and do more interesting things. If you realize things have gone horribly wrong just figure it out what happened and why and then start over. It will take a while as you're always learning something new, but you will find yourself happily stuck to it for days.

Since cheats have been posted, I'll post this:
- Keep dorms near amenities centers: prisoners wake up and quickly get bored. After boredom comes anger, and with anger comes fighting.
- Keep factories as close as possible to the mess hall. The best time to get prisoners to work is when they are happy, and eating makes them happy.
- Make sure there are amenities in the dorm rooms and that the prisoners can get out and move around. Vending machines are the most popular, but also the most expensive - but not as expensive as a prisoner dying, or being too busy fighting to go to work! And be mindful of overcrowding! I've never used anything larger than the 4 capacity bunk beds, and would make sure there is plenty of room for the prisoners as well as the ability for them all to get out. You might think they all have ample space, but click on the dorms in the mornings to make sure there are no brawls and that all the prisoners are occupied with one thing or another. Some may stand around chatting, some will use the dorm's facilities, others will go somewhere else. Perfect.
- Be mindful of maintenance. The prisoners aren't gentle with things, and they stop using something when the maintenance level falls into the 20's. Replace it.

Again, much of the game comes from figuring out how to get the population up and productive and seeing what does what. You'll find new ways of doing things as you get more money and freedom to experiment, but for now don't use the cheats just play the game as best you can.

(For those who seem perpetually befuddled by not gettng any prisoners: Build a dorm, then left click on the building. You'll then be viewing the overhead camera - now click on the trowel. Put some beds in. Now wait. Go build some other stuff, click the fast forward button. The prisoners don't just magically appear, they are dropped off a couple of times a day and have to make their way to the dorms via the front gate.)

Personally I've yet to get to any higher than low security. I thought it might be inadequate funds, but I now have ~$11 million; I also imagined that it was lack of capacity but I presently have about 400 beds (but it seems that the low security population hovers around 200 max). I will try putting in more guard houses - Thanks for the advice.

The problem in this game is the lack of direct control, but it is also what makes it worth playing. You have to figure things out, watch the prisoners, be aware of what they're feeling (and why they're feelign that way) and pay attention to the messages.
Initially I was convinced this game was made by retards, but now I realize that it is a pretty decent and addictive game- Stop whining like bitches for christ sake and take a few minutes to figure it out!

Posted by: Clotario at September 15, 2006 09:12 AM

Adding guard houses definately works to get to medium secuirty. I added about a dozen new ones and instantly hit med security.
Thanks again!

Posted by: Clotario at September 15, 2006 09:21 AM

How do you keep the place clean. I had 3 staff buildings filled with the cleaning staff rooms.I had about 30 inmates and about 12-15 cleaning staff and the garbage still kept getting worse.

Posted by: Lisa at September 16, 2006 04:17 AM

I dont get a trowel when I get to camera mode in the dorms. This is driving me crazy!!! How do I get to build indide the dorms?

Posted by: Pajak42 at September 16, 2006 03:37 PM

There is no symbol on the lower left hand corner of the screen?
Maybe you need to re-install....

Posted by: Clotario at September 17, 2006 09:47 AM

I have the same problem not being able to build anything. I'm not getting any trowel in my buildings either. All I get is the camera view, no option to even use the mouse. I can do all other function within the camera view. Can zoom, do other camera views, etc....just can't add anything. I've re-installed the game and have checked for patches and updates. Will give it another shot, but may have just a bum copy.

Posted by: Spencer at September 17, 2006 10:08 AM

Ive built dorms etc.. AND added bunks and other minimum (and maximum) requirements. Various ameneties, factories and had a security rating of med.

Now the problem to befuddle peopel.....

My inmates are NOT arriving. Needless to say ive passed more than one day of game time and its rather frustrating.

The prison bus just sits outside with the back doors open all the time from when i first start the scenario or free play.

Gonna try reinstalling but doubt this will fix the bug.

Anyone else had this problem? If so how did you fix it (if at all)?

Posted by: deedee at September 18, 2006 05:51 PM

Help fix my game! when I enter a building to add bunks and stuff. I can't see any other tool bars or my curser, just some white text. I have updated my driver any the game. if I click where the buttons should be, I can enter the "build mode" but I can't see the buttons so it takes a long time to find them. has any one this problem, or a fix?
cadmus3@new.rr.com

Posted by: Robert at September 21, 2006 09:59 PM

does anyone know if the codes for prison tycoon work for prison tycoon 2. And why does my computer keep kicking me out of the game?

Posted by: jason at September 28, 2006 10:52 PM

um... i looked at the posts and didnt see it answered. so can someone please tell me how to get prison staff in the prison.

Posted by: terrence at October 2, 2006 08:06 AM

I have the same problem with the build icon not appearing inside any of the rooms. I can still click on the spot that the building icon is meant to be, although i see no cursor or icon. the first time I know that something is working is after I've clicked a million times and move my cursor over a room, the bed/tv room/etc appears. I've uninstalled the game, reinstalled and yet its happened again. Having spent money on the game, I'm really frustrated that it doesnt work.
Has anyone come across a patch or advice on how to fix this problem

Thanks

Posted by: Robert de Villiers at October 2, 2006 11:23 AM

There is a hard-to-find note on the ValuSoft site that suggests most graphic problems are due to "outdated video card drivers".

Of course this is what every game company says, and it isn't very helpful. If you are having graphic problems, maybe you have an old video card or a card that doesn't support some feature that Prison Tycoon needs.

Posted by: Brandon at October 2, 2006 06:53 PM

I am having the same problem as some other people here. I build everything correctly, but for some reason no prisoners will arrive. WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Zack at October 3, 2006 05:44 PM

I am having the same problem as some other people here. I build everything correctly, but for some reason no prisoners will arrive. WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Zack at October 3, 2006 05:45 PM

Playing PT2: I have no or little problems with people not doing what they are supposed to with the latest patch.

But my place was way to overcrowded and as soon as the medium sec inmates started arriving there where riots all over.

Anyway what I wonder is if you are just supposed to have death-raw convicts mingling with low sec inmates and such or if there is any doable way to seperate the diffrent sec levels from each other?
Preferably still have some staff flowing trough.

Posted by: Hakan at October 4, 2006 01:15 AM

my prison tyccon wont work every time i click play it says problem and we need to close. IT IS SO FREAKING GAY

Posted by: sam at October 10, 2006 04:15 PM

How do I add bunks? E-mail me at Zeeboe82@aol.com if you can help.

Posted by: Zeeboe at October 22, 2006 06:43 PM

hello! anyone playing the scenarios? i keep getting stuck at some of the levels...

Posted by: xiiii at October 24, 2006 08:55 AM

why won't my cleaners pick up trash

Posted by: ce at October 29, 2006 06:27 PM

WARNING! the update 1.6 has a bug, the game crashes after you save your game.

Posted by: Nick Park at October 30, 2006 03:43 PM

Stupid game. Played a lot of Tycoon Games.
Idea is great, but it doesn´t work.

2d game that worked would have been better.

stay well clear of this one!

Posted by: Jansen at November 12, 2006 02:09 AM

is it possible to put the prisoners in lockdown?

Posted by: alex at November 12, 2006 01:26 PM

hey i have a problem...I build everything but everything put prisoners still dont come...i built even fences,guard towers,but they still dont come...Its so gay...

Posted by: Nick Fury at November 13, 2006 04:11 AM

Is anyone else experiencing problems setting up bunks in the dorms on Prison2? When I click the building, all I get is an birds eye view of the dorm.

Posted by: MG at November 16, 2006 04:53 PM

me too i cant get the stupid prisioners to come their like dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anyway i did what everyone said like clicking on it and doing the build icon and anyway dong the cheats it doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Katrina at November 20, 2006 01:00 PM

I have a prisoner who has a star on his picture in his profile picture, could someone please tell me what this means.

Posted by: Justin at November 25, 2006 09:59 PM

er...its in german. anyone know if i can download some sort of patch to change the language.

Posted by: boskovic at November 26, 2006 02:10 PM

so i was sitting there watching over the 12 prisoners in the laundy room. there was 1 guard in there watching them. all of a sudden there was a fight between two of the prisoners. the guard went to go break it up and the 12 prisoners ganged up on the guard and threw him in one of the washing machines and killed him. it came up in a little message that a guard had died in a riot. and i got fined 50,000 fo it.

Posted by: downy dirt at December 2, 2006 08:36 PM

ya that something like that happended to me once. but there was one time where there was a huge riot. i mean there was like 45 prisoners against like 10 guards. this riot took place in my large mess hall. all the prisoners took the guards and beat the crap out of them. then the prisoners took the guards in the back of the mess hall where all the ovens were and threw like 3 of the guards in the ovens. it turned out that like 8 prisoners died and only one of the 10 guards survived. it was cool.

Posted by: jelly at December 2, 2006 08:42 PM

everytime i click on the buildings to attempt to put cells and bunks in them it puts me in like a camera mode and i cannot click on any buttons... am i doing something wrong because i built all of the builds but i cannot figure out how the heck to furnish them HELP ME PLEASE!!!

Posted by: Josh at December 6, 2006 04:17 PM

does this game have a design folt? its like the building menu is invisable when u go inside the buildings to build beds etc or am i missing somthing?

Posted by: KIP at December 7, 2006 03:44 PM

I Have made a dorm added bunks inside and added a tv area and vending machines and all kinds of crap, still the game tells me I have no cells. Any solutions short of reinstalling?

Posted by: Senior Bean at December 11, 2006 07:01 AM

how do i get a game fixes for this i download the trainer but when i down load the fix it gives me a file that opens up in reason (a music program) how do i change the file to what i needs to be

Posted by: bad andy at December 16, 2006 01:11 PM

1- how do i tell what version i have.
2- After playing the game for +20 minutes or so it will crash (i did buy the game and d/l from the net if that makes a diffrence). My computer is a Core 2 Duo processor 2.55 Ghz, with 4 GB or ram and a 512mB graphics card so i doubt the problem is related to a slow computer.. could it be that the computer is too powerfull ?? Plz help drop me an email kevin@primeline.ca

Posted by: Tacklberry at December 26, 2006 10:52 AM

i am having the same problem, when i click the roof of any building it is only in the camera mode, and i can't click build to put in beds and stuff. ?????? anyone know of a patch?

Posted by: becca at December 26, 2006 07:09 PM

i cnat get any inmates i built every thing i can but they still wont come i tried building bunks but i cant any help?????
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Posted by: Zack at December 26, 2006 07:36 PM

No matter what I do, I always run out of money. Any idea on how to get more money???

I build the basics required but still run out of money.

There are hardly any prisoners coming into the jail.

I have assigned what little inmates I have to work in the factories but not alot of money comes in.

Also the money cheat above doesnt work. Anyone know where the 'save game' data is stored to be able to Hex Edit it?

good idea for the game but extremely hard to manage.

Help please!

Posted by: BrassMonkeys at December 27, 2006 10:40 AM

I have a big problem. I have just downloaded demo version Prison Tycoon when I have only 60 minutes to play. So I don't know what should I do , becouse I don't want pay for full version (20$).
Please give me crack or something to make a full version for free.
Thanks.

Posted by: Kuba at December 31, 2006 04:46 AM

Find instuctions on changing saved game data here. http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=934917&topic=31367671

Posted by: Looney Tycoony at December 31, 2006 10:36 PM

does the previous cheats for prison tycoon work? i tried them in free mode and they do not seem to work. any thoughts?

Posted by: sam at January 1, 2007 12:22 PM

Pls... Pls... how in the hell do u rotate ur view... All i can do is zoom in.. and zoom out. Left. right.. up... and down... i want to be able to view my places from different angles. Pls help. I feel like a moron and cant figure it out.

Posted by: Helpless... at January 1, 2007 05:21 PM

THE SECRERT FOUND (by the way to change the camera angle hold down ctrl)

The secret to getting to higher security lvls is the amount of guard towers (other things do help, all having to do with security, ie. survillence) Before you do this I would get atleast 750000- a million, all you have to do is put a crazy amount of guard towers, an unneeded. I had had a good amount of towers and I still needed like 15 more so dont be discouraged. This should advance you a security lvl. Once this is done and you have med. security the other security lvls come pretty fast. I had about 1 mil and change when I got to this lvl and bought all the land management offices (if you didnt know this gives you more land) I need alot of money to build new cells for the med. prisoners and new security towers. I had to build all new activities and such. Adding new med. security towers (to your new land) and replacing your old towers with new ones should get you to high security ( I didnt even have to replace the old ones to advance a lvl) but if you are still not there put new armories and med. survillance in your offices. Once your in high security do the same thing. build new cells, new towers,and such. remember that low-high risk prisoners can still room around the whole prison using existing buildings such as the factories and play grounds so you dont have to build different facilities. the only thing different is the cells. again replacing the towers and adding high. survillance and armories should get you to max. security lvl. Do you see why you should have alot of money when doing this, replacing towers and adding higher end cells and new building cost alot of $. once you are at max. security bulid their cells. when you first lvl to medium security it doesnt take very long to get to max. i dont thing you even need to play the game, for me i was just in building mode the whole time. oh and one more thing, when you get a max security prisoner he will walk straight for his cell but roam around the halls. dont worrt about this when night comes he will be in there for the rest of his sentence. And finally i wouldnt woory to much about prisoners escape, no the game makers have not excited us about this feature. The ONLY way a prison can escape is if there is no cell for them. new prisoners will not arrive if there is no cell for them but if you delete a cell for example and dont replace it by the end of the night the prisoner will escape. the lvl of guards doesnt even help with escape, i think thats more leaned to stopping fights. I hope this helps all of you, i know i was very frustrated with this problem before today.

Posted by: sam at January 1, 2007 06:38 PM

Oh and this one is for Zach, if you have built bunks and all of that i would see if the dormitory you built or any other building is right up against the place the prisoners come in, it is the building right next to the place where the bus pulls in, if it is then is probably is blocking the prisoners

Posted by: sam at January 1, 2007 06:45 PM

everytime i try to save the damn game crashes i have the update to 1.6 and i uninstalled and reinstalled without the patch and played it and the damn game crashes only a few minutes into playing it.

what the hell is the deal?

its a fun game otherwise, its something to do to blow time, i dont want this to be something i wasted my hard earned money on thats for sure.

Posted by: jake at January 3, 2007 01:08 AM

for the ? how do i build cells. click on the building and click build.

p.s.

i'm a kid and this isi'nt an email i don't give it out... or my name.

Posted by: sam at January 5, 2007 09:58 PM

How the hell do i build the fence? I have managed to get control of EVERYTHING except how to build the god-damn fence. Any help?

Posted by: Sarah at January 6, 2007 03:51 PM

For the ones who cant build a thing inside the building and see just a camera view:

I had this same problem and beleive it or not the game only worked when I updated my video card driver and updated the game.

Posted by: ccoyote@hotmail.com at January 10, 2007 07:39 AM

HOW THE FUCK DO I BUILD BUNKS AND CELLS THIS GAME IS SO GAY I CANT FIGURE IT OUT SOME ONE HELP

Posted by: ANDREW at January 10, 2007 04:30 PM

OK, it seems most people here can't read a friggin manual.

Prisoners are automatically allocated to cells. If you have unallocated prisoners, this means you don't have enough cells of the right type, i.e.: Low prisoners need Low cells, Max prisoners need Max cells. You can re-allocate prisoners by single- or double-clicking the prisoner, and then placing him on/in the cell.

A Star on a prisoner profile means this prisoner is a celebrity prisoner.

Fights can easily be broken up by pausing the game, clicking an inmate, and moving him away from the area, preferably FAR away. You need to keep rival gangs apart if your prison is a hole.

It seems ovens in kitchens and toilets in dorms are only used to kill staff and prisoners. You can prevent this by building furniture over the doors, if possible in your build.

ONLY happy prisoners will work. If a prisoner is not happy, get a guard to give him a good working-over with the baton. [sidebar: In my ver/build, the guard is constantly drawing his piece, but he never uses it. WHY, ValuSoft, will a guard prefer to DIE than KILL???]

Other crapmeisterish things:
Prisoners and workers alike walk through closed doors. Only one door in a building may be used. Plates on tables are always full, chow counters are therefore unnecessary.

I don't think I'll outlay the required funds for PT2.

Posted by: Rick at January 14, 2007 10:54 AM

Sorry for the double post, but I just figured out the cheat codes above only work when on max speed setting.

Posted by: Rick at January 14, 2007 12:41 PM

ay i bought the game prison tycoon 2 and i keep getting bugs and its frustrating. i neeed help how do i stopp gittn these buggs?

Posted by: True at January 15, 2007 03:43 PM

ay i need help. i bought prison tycoon 2 and i instiallded now i keep gittn bugs and the game crashes so much. how do i fix this problem? thanks

Posted by: True at January 15, 2007 03:46 PM

I can not get any prisoners in my jail! I have everything the game has to offer. I also have everything that you can put into the buildings but no prisoners! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Posted by: Saphira at January 18, 2007 03:59 PM

Will you all stop cussing on here!!! Children might be reading!

Posted by: Cool Man at January 18, 2007 04:03 PM

I tried the cheats on max speed, but the cheats still don't work!!!! Oh and is anyone else getting little lines that look like ink on their desktop??!!??!!

Posted by: Saphira at January 19, 2007 11:00 AM

Sorry about the triple post, but jrisdon@aol.net does not work. It is jsmith@aol.net.

Posted by: Saphira at January 19, 2007 11:02 AM

Sorry about the triple post, but jrisdon@aol.net does not work. It is jsmith@aol.net.

Posted by: Saphira at January 19, 2007 11:02 AM

Saphira, I love you!!! Will you marry me???

Posted by: Cool Man at January 19, 2007 04:10 PM

In your dreams Cool Man (or should I say Lame Man?)

Posted by: Saphira at January 19, 2007 04:12 PM

I love a boy named Clount.

Posted by: YYop at January 24, 2007 03:46 PM

I mean I love a boy named Cole.

Posted by: yyop at January 25, 2007 08:12 PM

i have pt1 how do i change sentences, and use the execution rooms?

Posted by: aaaaaaa at January 27, 2007 02:07 PM

any other prison guards here ?

i can't get this to load past the start up screen.
it shuts down on me as well.

BTW...i'm a C/O in NC

Posted by: holdin_magroin at February 10, 2007 09:31 PM

how do you get the prisoners in to the prison?? i got all buildings and this stuff but they don't come in!

Posted by: michael at February 14, 2007 01:14 PM

i cant put any prisoner in my buildings either. I am having all the problems that everybody else is having. How do you update your video card

Posted by: thomas at February 21, 2007 11:53 PM

Read the Manual. Do this, and all will be clear.

This game will automagically work if you don't open it.

This game is a piece of crap. I coded better in Grade Three, and that was when BASIC was revolutionary.

Posted by: Rick at February 22, 2007 11:23 PM

how the hell do you get the guards to take contraband from the prisoners on prison tycoon 2 its pissing me off and while were talking about it how do you get them to work at the factory

thanks

Posted by: glen at February 24, 2007 06:20 PM

I want to execute an inmate how do you do that

and holdin I'm a c/o in montana

Posted by: Justin at February 24, 2007 07:15 PM

Finally got to med security level. But I can't build cells - help!

(Don't say RTFM as it didn't come with one. The hard-to-find help file is one page long.)

Posted by: Another Tom at February 25, 2007 05:47 PM

I just recently purchased pt2, and im having the same problem with the crashes to. every ten to twenty minutes, the game shuts down and goes back to the desk top, and every time i save the game crashes back to the desk top.

Im not having any of the other problems that everyone else is as far as the prisoners coming to the jail or building racks. i am having alot of trouble with the prisoners getting sick. i build great hospitals with ample racks and they wont ever use them. I think one of the major problems is overcrowding in the dorms. im going to try to test this theory tomorrow.

if you want a higher security level just add more towers. but be prepared to build better cells or the higher security prisoners will have no place to go and cause trouble.

also, seperate your gang members, and keep your celebrities seperate. good input from your celebrities will help your prison rating, and cash flow.

Posted by: jason at February 26, 2007 08:47 PM

I'm having the same problem as most, my game crashes whenever I try to build too many things too quick, or as simple as destroying a guard tower. the game will crash to desktop and it tells me in the error report that this file is crashing it: 12a7_appcompat.txt --- I search for the file on my computer but it shows up nowhere. anyone else have the same deal?

Posted by: joeypeas at February 26, 2007 11:40 PM

Please someone help me or e-mail me on how to get prisoners in my jail at first i build everything and even inside and fences and nothing to block the gates and still nothing.... do i have to pause and build everything before the bus comes? or it dotn matter? how long does it take for the stupid prisoners to get off the bus? and why does it alwasy seem to shut down every twenty or so minutes... thnk you for anyones concerns....truly christina..

Posted by: christina at February 28, 2007 06:04 AM

How do I get the cheat codes to work in PT2?

Posted by: Chris at March 2, 2007 10:09 AM

This game is so stupid cause i cant get any prisoners

Posted by: glenn at March 10, 2007 01:43 AM

This game is so stupid cause i cant get any prisoners

Posted by: glenn at March 10, 2007 01:43 AM

This game is so stupid cause i cant get any prisoners

Posted by: glenn at March 10, 2007 01:43 AM

OMG this game sucks. It takes like hours for the prisoners to get off of the bus. And then on the screen words come up that says I have wasted all of my funds.

Posted by: glenn at March 10, 2007 01:56 AM

I just bought prison tycoon. Yes i have read your post, cant find what i need there. sooo, But, I still haveing a bit of a problem. First i cant read the manual it wont come up. Next i have a laptop, no mouse. The ctrl key with any other key does not change the vew 360 any other way? thks gmg

Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2007 06:28 PM

Ok now ive read most of the things here
the game is easy to play the problem most ppl are facing is that they can't get prisoners & running out of money
u can save money by paying guards less and not building everything at once
if u have 5 low security guards they get payed $25 thats thats $125 just for them 5 guards ppl build around 12 towers thats 12 guards thats $300
as the guard levels go up the more they get payed
so don't get as many guards keep buildings to a minimum and don't allow many prisoners in.

If u play on PT2 to get prisoners simple open the main gate and fast forward time it only took me 10 mins to get 8 prisoners and Med level security.

read the manual it explains most things and i was only playing the game for 60 mins trial

Posted by: james at March 19, 2007 11:07 PM

upgraded my PC and the game at least plays for me now.
i love the idea and concept of the game........
so far it's been truly
frustrating to have doctors step over dying inmates
then go bankrupt because of malpractice....grrrrr


ps...hello justin

Posted by: holdin_magroin at March 22, 2007 08:30 PM

how the diddly do you execute peope????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: flanders at April 6, 2007 12:06 PM

how the diddly do you execute peope????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: flanders at April 6, 2007 12:06 PM

how the diddly do you execute peope????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: flanders at April 6, 2007 12:06 PM

how the diddly do you execute peope????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: flanders at April 6, 2007 12:06 PM

how the diddly do you execute peope????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: flanders at April 6, 2007 12:06 PM

How do you get prisoners?

Posted by: ian at April 6, 2007 04:18 PM

i just bought prison tycoon 2 maximum security and i cant get it to install properly...i install the game but when i click to play it it gives me an error message box and it says "Direct3D renderer creator cant be found" can ayone tell me how to fix this problem so i can actually play the game if so please email me at JersyCityBadGuy@aol.com

Posted by: Will at April 11, 2007 09:21 PM

i don't know how to get the prisoners inside, i've placed every bulding, maybe i don't know how to hire staff or something pls help

Posted by: vibe at April 17, 2007 08:24 AM

Love this game! But it crashes ALOT! How I fix this prob? Thanks all!

Posted by: Chris at April 21, 2007 08:34 PM

how do i get staff?this gameis stupid im never byin a valusoft game/im on free mode!!

Posted by: Pablo at April 22, 2007 08:58 AM

Everytime I go to play Prison Tycoon 2 there is a bug that keeps me from playing it. Does anyone know how to get rid of the bugs in this game so I can play?

Posted by: Brittney at April 28, 2007 05:21 PM

Try uninstalling the Prison Tycoon game then reinstall it, see if that works.

Posted by: JAG at May 4, 2007 06:10 PM

YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID.IT TOOK ME 1O MINS TO FIGURE OUT THIS GAME AND DIRECTIONS AND IM ONLEY 12 AND IM HAVING NO TRUBLES.IDOTS IDOTS

Posted by: DAKOTA at May 12, 2007 05:53 PM

It seems to me that Prison Tycoon is a lot easier to play (and less buggy) than Prison Tycoon 2.

There is no easy way to play Prison Tycoon 2... It is fucked. Not only does it crash every 20mins... But the sick/injured inmates are too fuckin retarded to go to a doctor. Telling a doctor to do his job just makes him walk faster or some shit, he doesn't even bother to cure the inmates.

I edited the data.xml and made every building cost $1 but even then I couldnt keep the fuckers happy... I would like to punch the game maker in the nose.

Posted by: Tank at May 14, 2007 02:20 AM

How do you hire more guards?

Posted by: Dan at May 21, 2007 01:28 PM

After finally finding a balance and watching doctors run to the mess hall, as they are passing up dying inmates, i tied putting the inmate into the hospital.....and the game crashed. What a crappily made game. Battlefield 2 and Company of Heroes hasn't ever crashed on my system. What a crap game with a great idea. And not being able to watch an execution??? Only managing a prison with no reward?? WTF ValuSoft ??

Posted by: aaron at May 25, 2007 08:56 AM

Again, just getting to medium security and BOOM----Prison Tycoon 2 Has encountered an error.......WTF???????????????????

Posted by: aaron at May 28, 2007 09:55 PM

Well, here's my comments on Prison Tycoon, the first one...

An excellent game, but I still can't figure out some stuff.

Like, why, at every single morning when my prisoners get up, a huge ass fight/riot ALWAYS breaks out in the dormitories involving atleast twenty inmates in each one, and usually resulting in a troop of inmates heading to the health center...

I also try to put injured inmates in the health center to get help but they just leave and go somewhere else. Same way with hungry inmates, I'll put them in the mess hall and they'll just walk out.

And most of the time they wont even work in the factories I made.

Now, about Prison Tycoon 2...

I don't know much about it, because I can't play it...

The game crashes like every time I try to play, and when it doesn't, I end up running out of funds while waiting for some prisoners to arrive.

Posted by: Zach at June 1, 2007 12:37 AM
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